Joshua Niles
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Post by Joshua Niles on Jun 8, 2021 17:01:35 GMT
[ LT Joshua Niles - The Eastman-Williams Kerelian condo ]Of course not everyone responded the same way, but there certainly were things that could not be tolerated. And, well, that included a certain Doctor Keltner who decided that if she was to cooperate with an investigation it would be because she damn well felt like it, and she would be the one setting the terms of said investigation. And, truth be told, that still angered him. And left him with one great worry at this point, as well. But apparently, he was also giving Charlie Fox more access than warranted? That was an interesting take on things all right, but then again given just how vehemently Keltner would have complained about him, and the protests that would have come from L'Sho's office, it made sense that something as simple as handing out information what would be openly available as well as a tip that would not compromise an investigation may seem excessive. However, he set that aside for the time being. "Speaking of Doctor Keltner, had you not been available, or been able to put Miss Henriksen or Jenkins at my disposal, I have to wonder how precisely I have been expected to proceed with the investigation. And what you said about a NDA? You'll have to excuse me when I say that's a little... insulting. I'm trusted to handle classified, personal and privileged commercial information on a daily basis and not make any use of it for my own gain yet I can't be trusted with information about colonial building practices?"
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Judith Eastman
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Post by Judith Eastman on Jun 8, 2021 20:18:48 GMT
[Capt. Judith Eastman(-Williams), PhD - Judy & Max's Kerelian Condo]This time, Judy understood the objection. It looked odd, from the outside. "You know, I've signed... gosh, hundreds and hundreds of NDAs in my life, and there is a reason for it," she said, with a slight smile. "The things you do have access to are state secrets. You keep them a secret because revealing them would jeopardize the security of the Federation, and that's why they're rigorously protected by law."
"These secrets, on the other hand, are trade secrets. If they leak, they'll just let Warp Age's competitors mooch off their work - they won't bring the Breen army to the streets of Manhattan, so you can much more easily justify it to yourself should you choose to sell them off, or just regurgitate them on social media. The NDA is a mechanism that exacts a promise from you that you won't do that, and imposes penalties on you if you do."As insulting as it might seem, it was there for a reason.
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Joshua Niles
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Post by Joshua Niles on Jun 14, 2021 3:57:42 GMT
[ LT Joshua Niles - The Eastman-Williams Kerelian condo ]Perhaps it was youth and inexperience, or perhaps it was simply just a baffling concept, but still Niles did not quite understand. Well, he did understand that commercial entities had a vested interest in keeping their proprietary information close to the vest, but as a Starfleet officer wasn't he already duty-bound to not reveal that information, or make use of it for his personal profit? "I understand Warp Ages wanting to keep control of their proprietary information, but isn't an NDA redundant when a court martial can impose civil reparation on top of the service sentence if an officer misuses any of the information that comes into their hands?"
"And, my question remains: had you not been available, or could not send Henriksen or Jenkins to poke through their databases for me, precisely what mechanisms would have been open to me to get the information I needed to get things done quickly? Send for a warrant and hope our local magistrate isn't worried about angering Doctor Keltner? Wait for forensics on the physical evidence to come through and hope our suspects didn't get off-world before they were identified? I know I disappointed you even if I managed to get two suspects identified. But I can't help but think you'd be even more so even if I'd followed procedure to the letter and we would have lost them."
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Judith Eastman
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Post by Judith Eastman on Jun 14, 2021 4:38:25 GMT
[Capt. Judith Eastman(-Williams), PhD - Judy & Max's Kerelian Condo]Judy seemed almost taken aback by the burst of aggressive energies that now seemed to be directed at her. "Young man, I know this is a casual environment, but I don't appreciate that tone; few people do," she gently admonished. "Now, to your points: 1, if Jenkins hadn't been available, I would've had you sign the NDA to gain access. It's a 10-minute procedure, but one that, since Jenkins was available, I chose to avoid."
"2, the goal of the NDA is to create a mechanism that can be enforced. Without it, you would be permitted to publish all those trade secrets. That's what it is."She clasped her hands together. "Sometimes, things are done in a way that doesn't necessarily please us, but there's still a good reason for it. Not every institution needs to be challenged."Not that she believed that, when she was in her early 20s.
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Joshua Niles
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Post by Joshua Niles on Jun 15, 2021 15:32:02 GMT
[ LT Joshua Niles - The Eastman-Williams Kerelian condo ]And fairly quickly, Joshua Niles regretted his choice of words. And his tone. And he was briskly called out on it, and with a sigh, he lowered his head and briefly closed his eyes, taking a few moments to collect himself. "My apologies, Captain. I know it's no excuse, but I guess my frustration and disappointment with this whole thing... with myself, got away from me."Yes, it had been a rough day. And come to think of it, a rough few months and he should've been much, much better than he had been lately. But at least, he had accomplished a degree of expertise in one particular field that would make him a valuable asset. Now, he just had to hit the books and the holodecks for some refresher training all right...
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Judith Eastman
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Post by Judith Eastman on Jun 16, 2021 1:08:13 GMT
[Capt. Judith Eastman(-Williams), PhD - Judy & Max's Kerelian Condo]"Unfortunately, this may be the first time you've lashed out at me, but it's not the first time you've lashed out. This is a recurring issue, and it, too, is going to have to stop," Judy said, trying very hard not to lapse into her lecturing "teacher voice". "Like I said, you need to find a more balanced way of interacting with people, and that's one more thing that's going to take some work."Judy was deeply troubled by this. It was another manifestation of that temper that flared out now and then. She had half a mind to remove Josh from his bridge watches, not as a punitive act, but because he wasn't cool-headed enough for them.
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Joshua Niles
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Post by Joshua Niles on Jun 16, 2021 2:44:34 GMT
[ LT Joshua Niles - The Eastman-Williams Kerelian condo ]Now, one Joshua Niles was finding himself confused. Repeatedly lashing out to the point of it being considered a recurring issue? Now that was not something he could honestly say so himself as he was wracking his brain for examples of such behaviour. Granted, there was this interaction with Keltner, and he certainly wasn't proud of it. However, he would hardly consider it 'lashing out' to not bend over backwards to kiss up to L'Sho. Granted, he'd not been the most diplomatic on Caldonia either, but to be offered a bloody medal for shooting a man in order to end an immediate threat to the station's population rather than because of his status on his homeworld, that was not something he could have done. Hell, between the ability to look himself in the eye in the mirror and taking the risk of creating this image that Starfleet recognized Caldonian practices as valid by allowing one of their officers to accept that decoration, he had plenty of reason not to accept it. And come to think of it, he'd not asked for the bloody thing back from Captain Eastman either... and he really didn't care to. "I'd be lying if I said there aren't things I'm not proud of. Between yesterday and today, I'm starting to have some serious questions at my competence and..." He had failed to properly manage a fairly straightforward criminal investigation. And apparently his list of failings extended far before that. "Honestly, I don't think I've really been myself since we had to abandon the Caldonia Five. Intellectually I know the call was out of your hands and that I had no choice but to follow the orders you gave me. I'll be damned if I ever understand why we abandoned them... but I keep asking myself why the hell I didn't protest at the time. Or... do any damn thing at all to get them back. If I think back, since then I've been wondering less about whether I was doing things wrong, or just not doing what was right."
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Judith Eastman
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Post by Judith Eastman on Jun 16, 2021 5:28:19 GMT
[Capt. Judith Eastman(-Williams), PhD - Judy & Max's Kerelian Condo]Judy sighed loudly. The invocation of the Caldonia Five seemed genuine, perhaps Josh believed that was the catalyst, but then, events had worried her even before. "That thing is going to follow all of us for the rest of our lives. We have to learn to go forward," she said gravely. "That being said, I don't think that was really an inflection point here. These same issues were going on before, too."This was, to some degree, an engineer's focus on the problem of Josh's behavior, because Judy wasn't up for yet another emotional analysis of the events of Caldonia. It still weighed on her, and she didn't have anything new to say about it, that she hadn't already said - and to Josh himself, at that.
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Joshua Niles
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Post by Joshua Niles on Jun 19, 2021 2:34:05 GMT
[ LT Joshua Niles - The Eastman-Williams Kerelian condo ]"Captain, just to be sure we are clear here, I'm not trying to make excuses for my failings. So far as those are concerned, the buck starts and ends with me."Niles spoke softly, his voice a near-whisper as he looked down just a little forward of the tips of his boots. He certainly had a good deal he wasn't proud of in recent months, and the previous day had just been the cherry on top of a sundae he'd not even realized was being assembled. That kind of lack of self-awareness could be... problematic. "I'm not going to lie, I'm not really sure what I need to do to properly sort myself out. But starting tomorrow, I'm going to start on some... refresher training, going back to basics and take some of my off-duty time to take up at least partial shifts within the Security side of the house. I know it's only one part of the problem, but it's the one I'm at least confident I can tackle."One other thing he was at least reasonably certain of, was that Judith Eastman was a woman who valued people identifying problems to come up at least with something resembling a solution, and if he could start to provide the bones of one, well, that would at least be a start in repairing the damage that he been done in her esteem.
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Post by Judith Eastman on Jun 19, 2021 22:41:45 GMT
[Capt. Judith Eastman(-Williams), PhD - Judy & Max's Kerelian Condo]Judy wasn't convinced, and that much was plainly evident. She hoped Josh would get his act together, but she wasn't sure if he could, or would. She glanced down at her watch. "Well, we could keep at this all day, but the grandkids are coming for dinner today. Best of luck, young man, and try to get the help you need."There was a lot left unaddressed, or under-addressed, but Judy felt that this conversation had gone as far as it could go.
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Joshua Niles
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Post by Joshua Niles on Jun 21, 2021 2:07:39 GMT
[ LT Joshua Niles - The Eastman-Williams Kerelian condo ]Niles might not be the most attuned to other people's expressions and social cues, but he could tell that the Old Lady doubted him. Well, whenever there was a slew of problems, the secret was to tackle them one at a time, and he was already formulating a plan to work on at least the most basic of the issues in the form of his basic proficiencies. However, he certainly had a lot to think about, and he knew a dismissal when he heard one even though it was not spoken in so many words. "Thank you, Captain," he said softly. "I know it'll take a while, but I'm going to work on this... on all of this."And with that said, he inclined his head, and saw himself out, knowing there was much to do, and that for the foreseeable future there would be little to no such thing, again, as leisure time. Not when he had to thoroughly refresh himself on so many things. Though, he knew one thing for certain: in the immediate, he was in no state to fly his shuttle back up, and he would indeed make use of it as an office and home away from home for the rest of the day.
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